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Real Network Topology 102

You can have any device anywhere as long as it is configured correctly... Each application calls for a different configuration for ideal setup..

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The easiest thing for you to do is just plug all 4 computers into the router. You don't even need the switch, unless you just want to have one computer outside of the internal network. The router will pull one IP from your ISP and assign internal IP addresses to the computers hooked up to it. Assuming, of course that your router is capable of NAT and DHCP, which most are, these days.

I would post something about Network Topology, but Squirre1 tells me I don't know anything about networking; so, I won't.

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ROFL... I still love anthos though... I have not looked at the specs of your router and assume that anthos has seeing that he is telling you to plug into the switch ports... I agree with him... There is no need for the freaked out configuration that one would think would be needed... Just put your machine in the DMZ so people outside will be able to hit your game and then the LAN users will be able to hit it on the 192.168... Only killer though is how to setup the game, LAN or Internet..? That is where the fun begins... hehe...

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rgr that but will all of the computers be able to get on the internet? like i sais i have 4 open spots onthe first switch and only three will work. and i am not quite sure how to bridge my net connections on my computer anyway.

teh problem is not setting up the lan for everybody to be able to play thats the easy part what we are trying to do is set it up so that we can all get on the net too. i figured that running one switch off my computer and bridging my net connections would fool cox and let me have more than three comuters on at the same time.

you know just make it look like one computer has more traffic on it.

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modem -> router -> switch or other computers gives internet access to everybody, and seeing as a router is technically a stripped down unix box..

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I'm confused. Are you saying Cox won't let you have more than 3 actual computers online at the same time? I've never heard of an ISP doing that. The only thing I've seen is them restricting how many IP addresses you pull. They usually don't care how many you have on an internal network. Josh, Kevin and I had 4-5 computers hooked up to one IP address at one point with Comcast in Independence. If your router has 5 ports, which you say it does, then you can plug the modem into the WAN port, and the 4 computers into the LAN ports. That will put all your computers on the same subnet for easy LAN game hosting. Now, if you want to host an internet game, you'll have to set your computer to DMZ host, or at least open up the ports for the game, if you can find them out; because otherwise the router will block the information from coming in those ports.

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well all i know is that when we hook up more than four to the router or the switch only three work and the fourth cant pull a dhcp addy to be online and basically just wont receive any net info

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If you aren't getting an IP, then there's something wrong with your router. Open up its settings and make sure it can assign more than three ips.

The IP addresses you want to be using should come from there.

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The way he has his topology setup is assbackwards. He is pulling all 3 IPs that way. Adding additional computers puts him over his limit of pulling 3 IP's. He needs to set it up as designated in Network Topology 101. If he has this much trouble setting it up, he can't do Network Topology 102.

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Let me throw my confusion into the mix.

For clarification. Your router pulls ONE IP and then distributes "local" IPs to the clients. So, having 3 IPs from the cable company really doesn't help you if your using a router.

From what I read, it sounds like the router has a built-in 4 port switch (1 port is a shared link). So, when all 4 computers are hooked up, 1 doesn't work (its in the link).

Am I close on this one?

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I believe warman has it right, the Router is NOT using only one IP, it is assigning a COX IP to each computer like a switch. So the real question is how do we set the router to act as a router and not a switch. How do we change how it operates?

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Be default, every router I've seen developed for the home user market already has the DHCP service running - typically you will pull a 192.168.0.x address. If it's not, you'll need to remote into it, either via http:// or tellnet (assuming it has telenet capabilities). Most routers, by default, have web enabled management - you'd just enter http://192.168.0.1 in your browser window and login. If that doesn't work, you'll likely need to figure out how you perform a settings flush on the router and then get logged in - making sure to change the admin password from default.

Although I guess this can all be discarded since I just reread and realized the router is a unix box. Save some headache, you can get a 4 port Linksys router at BB for like $40

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well all i know is that when we hook up more than four to the router or the switch only three work and the fourth cant pull a dhcp addy to be online and basically just wont receive any net info

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I have a headache just reading all of this...

I'm glad I took the at home course on Network Topology. That course teaches you to 1) Try something. 2) Ask your friends advice. 3) Follow your friends advice 4) Alter friends advice slightly and finally 5) Screw it. Either get by as is or pay someone.

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Yea, Linksys routers work pretty good, and I'd be able to specifically tell you whats going on. That and I can't find any information on your current router.

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